Comments on: Views thus far….20 days into the conflict http://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/ Just another Wordpress.com weblog Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:30:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: m green http://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-445 m green Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:30:17 +0000 https://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-445 i think that the Isreali people/government are not a peace loving group at all. they have the money to do what ever they want and this shows in the politics of the U S and other nations of the world if the JEWISH people wanted peace it would be an easy task DOesnt thier religon teach LOVE? YOU do not go to a neighbors house with a gun to settle an argument!you discuss it as the bible tells us. the government of isreal cannot justify any of thier aggressive behaviour. all that happens when you fight with a bigger weapon more people get hurt and what money does is buy bigger weapons. as history tells us is that the winner of all wars is the righteous ones, what a fucking joke. Isreal can win but what are they winning. GOD will let them know! MONEY is the root of all evil, too bad the fucking jews dont realize this FACT and let thier neighbors live in peace. Kill one family member and you have the hatred of a lifetime. too bad the only way for a poor people to fight back is by suicide on innocent victoms wouldn,t it be a mess if the palestinians had money!! probubaly would not be so many civilian casulties they would show more class than thier apponents for sure, but as the great U S of FUCKING A would say who gives a fuck about poor people. i think that the Isreali people/government are not a peace loving group at all. they have the money to do what ever they want and this shows in the politics of the U S and other nations of the world if the JEWISH people wanted peace it would be an easy task DOesnt thier religon teach LOVE? YOU do not go to a neighbors house with a gun to settle an argument!you discuss it as the bible tells us. the government of isreal cannot justify any of thier aggressive behaviour. all that happens when you fight with a bigger weapon more people get hurt and what money does is buy bigger weapons. as history tells us is that the winner of all wars is the righteous ones, what a fucking joke. Isreal can win but what are they winning. GOD will let them know! MONEY is the root of all evil, too bad the fucking jews dont realize this FACT and let thier neighbors live in peace. Kill one family member and you have the hatred of a lifetime. too bad the only way for a poor people to fight back is by suicide on innocent victoms wouldn,t it be a mess if the palestinians had money!! probubaly would not be so many civilian casulties they would show more class than thier apponents for sure, but as the great U S of FUCKING A would say who gives a fuck about poor people.

]]> By: imen http://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-444 imen Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:40:41 +0000 https://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-444 bonjour tout le monde, je pense que c'est injuste ce qui se passe avec les palestiniens, en Iraq, Libanon, Soudan, Afghaneston........... tout ces pays souffrent les conséquances du "rêve americo-izraelien" , comme je l'apelle. Nous sommes dans un monde ou la force c'est la seule langue de ses deux pays. Je ne pense pas que les arabes sont les térroristes, d'après ce que je vois dans ce monde se sont eux les victimes: est ce que c'est normale que ces pays font des guerres et disent que les arabes sont les responsables???????????? je ne trouve même pas les mots pour decrire mes sentiments , chaque jours je regarde la télé et je pleure la faiblesse des enfants, des mères, des familles...Je déteste la faiblesse et l'injustice. merci de bien ouvrir les yeux et voir les choses plus claires en oubliant la relegion et les frontières et nous nous rappelons juste que nous sommes des êtres humain. bonjour tout le monde,
je pense que c’est injuste ce qui se passe avec les palestiniens, en Iraq, Libanon, Soudan, Afghaneston……….. tout ces pays souffrent les conséquances du “rêve americo-izraelien” , comme je l’apelle. Nous sommes dans un monde ou la force c’est la seule langue de ses deux pays. Je ne pense pas que les arabes sont les térroristes, d’après ce que je vois dans ce monde se sont eux les victimes: est ce que c’est normale que ces pays font des guerres et disent que les arabes sont les responsables???????????? je ne trouve même pas les mots pour decrire mes sentiments , chaque jours je regarde la télé et je pleure la faiblesse des enfants, des mères, des familles…Je déteste la faiblesse et l’injustice. merci de bien ouvrir les yeux et voir les choses plus claires en oubliant la relegion et les frontières et nous nous rappelons juste que nous sommes des êtres humain.

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]]> By: someone http://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-13 someone Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:39:08 +0000 https://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-13 This war is for lebaneses ,a war of independance,they dont want USA involving in their politics ,they want their land free of all occupation,and they want back their prisoners of war. For americans ,it is a war of expansion,they want to secure Lebanon as a military base like Iraq now,to then march on Syria when their project has been implemented in Lebanon,and in Iraq,move alltogether toward Iran, this will not be the new or big middle east but,the new America in this region,energy will not only be cheap but free,and people there should change their culture and way of life into an american one ,this is the american definiton of peace. For other arabs, this war is a war for identity, you should fight to stay alive as you are and hold your identity and presence, victory means holding its identity. All parties groups, millitants, societies, involved to fight against this american project ,are considered terrorists,and the countries which refuse it will be considered as non-democratic ,and should be punished economically or removed by force. This war is for lebaneses ,a war of independance,they dont want USA involving in their politics ,they want their land free of all occupation,and they want back their prisoners of war.

For americans ,it is a war of expansion,they want to secure Lebanon as a military base like Iraq now,to then march on Syria when their project has been implemented in Lebanon,and in Iraq,move alltogether toward Iran, this will not be the new or big middle east but,the new America in this region,energy will not only be cheap but free,and people there should change their culture and way of life into an american one ,this is the american definiton of peace.

For other arabs, this war is a war for identity, you should fight to stay alive as you are and hold your identity and presence, victory means holding its identity.

All parties groups, millitants, societies, involved to fight against this american project ,are considered terrorists,and the countries which refuse it will be considered as non-democratic ,and should be punished economically or removed by force.

]]> By: climenole http://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-12 climenole Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:59:59 +0000 https://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-12 HI :) You ask me for a comment. Here's my comment: Almost everydays we're informed by the medias about horrifics things happend accross the World but the most revolting of them was the ones caused by human being against the others: attacks from Terrorists groups, war in Irak, genocide in Darfour, and now the war in the Middle East between Israël and their neighbors (Lebanese and Palestinians poeple: which included pacific poeple AND War Mongers such as Hebzhollah [The God's Party] or other groups)... For a normal person, the first reaction in such situation is to sympathised with the victims and be angry against the attackers. That's fine but not enough... Who's right? Who's wrong? These questions and their answers drive us into the same "game" of killing and revenge. Every part of this conflict can shows us their victims and ask us to be part or their revenge. This perpetuate the problem and never stop killings, making many others innocent victims. About the fighter of each side we can say : «The plague on both your houses» [W. Shakespeare] We have to be part of the solution not the problem. And we have to help "part of the solution" poeple on both side in the conflict. This is a very unconfortable situation but this is the only way to get out this "vendetta's logic". In the Middle East conflict, which is mainly the conflict between Israël and the Palestinians (with many externals fighters using this conflict for theirs own purpose and political agendas including Americans and Iranians for example), the poeples in power (the ones who have the weapons and used them) are the main responsible for this situation. The poeple who play their game too... No ones of them accept the existence of the other and nobody of them recongnized that their fight will never reach a "Total victory" against their opponents. Never. The only way to get out of this situation is to stop killings others, accept compromised and talk to the other part of the conflict to sign an agreement based on cease of fire and compromised. Any total victory is excluded for any part in this conflict. When we see the tears of mothers in South Lebanon, these tears are real and we cried with them. But when we see tears in the faces of the fighters and war mongers be sure that these tears are what we called in french : "des larmes de crocodiles": crocodile tears... We don't believed they care of these victims but they used them for their purposes. The question is not who is wrong - who is right but: How to set up a compromised solution between us with the objective of living in peace? The only way to sympatised with the victims past and present from all parts, (all victims are equal), we must encourage every pacific poeple of both side to take the power, stop fire and start to negociate to reach a compromised solution. Who can say that he did not know that it's the only solution? “The ink of the scientists is more invaluable than the blood of the martyrs” Peace! :) HI :)

You ask me for a comment. Here’s my comment:

Almost everydays we’re informed by the medias about horrifics things happend accross the World but the most revolting of them was the ones caused by human being against the others: attacks from Terrorists groups, war in Irak, genocide in Darfour, and now the war in the Middle East between Israël and their neighbors (Lebanese and Palestinians poeple: which included pacific poeple AND War Mongers such as Hebzhollah [The God's Party] or other groups)…

For a normal person, the first reaction in such situation is to sympathised with the victims and be angry against the attackers. That’s fine but not enough…

Who’s right? Who’s wrong? These questions and their answers drive us into the same “game” of killing and revenge. Every part of this conflict can shows us their victims and ask us to be part or their revenge. This perpetuate the problem and never stop killings, making many others innocent victims.

About the fighter of each side we can say :

«The plague on both your houses» [W. Shakespeare]

We have to be part of the solution not the problem. And we have to help “part of the solution” poeple on both side in the conflict. This is a very unconfortable situation but this is the only way to get out this “vendetta’s logic”.

In the Middle East conflict, which is mainly the conflict between Israël and the Palestinians (with many externals fighters using this conflict for theirs own purpose and political agendas including Americans and Iranians for example), the poeples in power (the ones who have the weapons and used them) are the main responsible for this situation. The poeple who play their game too…

No ones of them accept the existence of the other and nobody of them recongnized that their fight will never reach a “Total victory” against their opponents. Never. The only way to get out of this situation is to stop killings others, accept compromised and talk to the other part of the conflict to sign an agreement based on cease of fire and compromised. Any total victory is excluded for any part in this conflict.

When we see the tears of mothers in South Lebanon, these tears are real and we cried with them.
But when we see tears in the faces of the fighters and war mongers be sure that these tears are what we called in french : “des larmes de crocodiles”:
crocodile tears… We don’t believed they care of these victims but they used them for their purposes.

The question is not who is wrong – who is right but: How to set up a compromised solution between us with the objective of living in peace?

The only way to sympatised with the victims past and present from all parts, (all victims are equal), we must encourage every pacific poeple of both side to take the power, stop fire and start to negociate to reach a compromised solution.

Who can say that he did not know that it’s the only solution?

“The ink of the scientists is more invaluable than the blood of the martyrs”

Peace!
:)

]]> By: Abed. Hamdan http://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-11 Abed. Hamdan Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:02:52 +0000 https://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-11 please post a link to my blog entry of the view I provided...thx please post a link to my blog entry of the view I provided…thx

]]> By: carol http://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-10 carol Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:54:20 +0000 https://middleeastcrisis.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/5/#comment-10 I wish people would react more. I wish people would react more.

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